Building C
Stables Market, Chalk Farm Road, London NW1 8AH
Summary
Camden Market started applying for planning permission in 1999 and was granted permission 3 times between 2001 and 2005 for Building C
The granted planning permissions had a number of conditions, of those conditions, we are largely focused on the following, (which were phrased in 3 different ways on all 3 planning permissions granted by the council and clearly verify each other):
2005 - 4 No persons/staff/customers shall be on the premises in connection with the use between 24.00 hours and 08.00 hours the following day.
Reason: To safeguard the amenities of the adjoining premises and the area generally in accordance with the requirements of policies RE2 and SH 18 of the London Borough of Camden Unitary Development Plan 2000.
2003 - 4. The food and drink and leisure uses hereby permitted shall not be carried out outside the hours of 0800 to 2400.
2001 - 4 The food and drink, exhibition space and leisure uses hereby permitted shall not be carried out outside the hours of 0800 to 2400.
4 To safeguard the amenities of the adjoining premises and the area generally in order to ensure compliance with the requirements of policy RE2 of the London Borough of Camden Unitary Development Plan 2000.
Then in 2006 a licensed business called Gilgamesh on the 1st floor began operating past midnight with a license that they applied for in breach of the conditions above
Then in 2010 an additional licensed business called Shaka Zulu began operating past midnight in the basement of Building C with a license that they applied for that also breached the conditions we are focusing on here
In 2018 Gilgamesh closed and vacated the 1st floor, and the owners have submitted a planning application just for that floor also with a license application, they propose to continue to breach the conditions above.
We wish those conditions applied fully to these applications, and Shaka Zulu, not to have persons in the building between midnight and 8am the next day to protect the neighbourhood after years of documented environmental damage by the occupants of Building C.
Shaka Zulu continue to operate in breach of conditions, and have been operating for 8 years, which is within the 10 year enforcement limitations. We want Shaka Zulu to comply with the condition not to have persons in the building between midnight and 8am the next day.
Full details and documents provided below.
TIMELINE
- 1999 - Building C - Date of Application 10 December 1999 - Planning Application - PE9800576
- 2001 - Building C - PERMISSION FOR DEVELOPMENT - Subject to Conditions - Application No: PE9800576 - 26 April 2005
- 2003 - Building C - Full Planning Permission Granted - Application Ref: 2003/0726/P - 22 October 2003
- 2005- Building C - Full Planning Permission Granted - Application Ref: 2005/0224/P - 31 March 2005
- 2005 - Building C - Construction completed
- 2006 - Building C, 1st Floor - Gilgamesh - The first occupant was Gilgamesh restaurant, bar and night club on the 1st Floor, Building C - License APP\PREMISES-NEW\000307 - 21 April 2006
- 2010 - Building C, Basement & Sub-basement - Shaka Zulu restaurant, bar and night club opens in the basement and sub-basement - License APP\PREMISES-NEW\000734 - 10 February 2009
- 2018 - Building C, 1st, 2nd & 3rd Floors - the office sharing that is now called LABS by landowners Labtech (aka Market Tech) expands down to the 1st Floor, after Gilgamesh closed in January 2018
- 2018 - Building C, 1st Floor - Labtech LABS Planning Application - 2018/1005/P
- 2018 - Building C, 1st Floor - Labtech LABS License Application APP\PREMISES-NEW\090507
- 2018 - Building C, Basement & Sub-basement - Camden Dining, Shaka Zulu remain down in the nether regions of Building C as a licensed restaurant and night club until 2am and later with TENs then loud cleaning staff on site until 5 - 6am, then loud rubbish collections
DOCUMENTS
Spreadsheet TIMELINE WITH FLOORS
BUILDING C PLANNING
2018 Planning Application - 2018/1005/P
Site Address - 1st Floor Building C, The Stables Market, Chalk Farm Road, London NW1 8AH
FULL PLANNING PERMISSION GRANTED - 31 03 2005.PDF
Full Planning Permission Granted
Address:
Site of Building C
The Stables Market, Chalk Farm Road, London NW1 8AH
Proposal:
Extension during the course of construction to four storey building (approvals 2003/0726/P, PEX0200404 & PE9800576R2) to provide an additional basement level to accommodate preparation and storage areas attached to the approved restaurant use (Class A3) at first floor level, toilets to the leisure use (Class D2) at basement level and plant and safety requirements ancillary to the use of the entire building.
The Council has considered your application and decided to grant permission subject to the following condition(s):
4 No persons/staff/customers shall be on the premises in connection with the use between 24.00 hours and 08.00 hours the following day.
Reason: To safeguard the amenities of the adjoining premises and the area generally in accordance with the requirements of policies RE2 and SH 18 of the London Borough of Camden Unitary Development Plan 2000.
5 No music shall be played on the premises in such a way as to be audible within any adjoining premises or on the adjoining highway.
Reason: To safeguard the amenities of the adjoining premises and the area generally in accordance with the requirements of policies RE2 and SH18 if A3 use of the London Borough of Camden Unitary Development Plan 2000.
7 No loading or unloading of goods, including fuel, by vehicles arriving at or departing from the premises shall be carried out otherwise than within the curtilage of the building.
Reason: To avoid obstruction of the surrounding streets and to safeguard amenities of adjacent premises in accordance with the requirements of policy TR23 of the London Borough of Camden Unitary Development Plan 2000.
It should be noted in "Applicant Correspondence (1).PDF"
TS/BMM/S/PLANNlNG/04358/003
18 January 2005
Celeste Giusti, Development Control Team, Planning Services, London Borough of Camden, Town Hall, Argyle Street, London WC1H 8ND
from TRISTAN SQUIRE
Enc / cc
Chris Shaw, Shaw Corporation enc / David Gigi, Stanley Sidings Ltd enc / Keith Gransby, Stanley Sidings enc / AJastair Roberts, ESA enc
the following:
"Deliveries for Building C will be taken through the main Stables Market gate off Chalk Farm Road"
FULL PLANNING PERMISSION GRANTED 22 10 03.PDF
Full Planning Permission Granted
Address: Site of Building C
The Stables Market, Chalk Farm Road, London NW18AH
Applicant Name: The Stables Market (Camden) Ltd
Address: Stanley Sidings, c/o Agent
Proposal:
Amendment to previous planning permissions (Reg.no.PE9800576R2, and PEX0200404) for the redevelopment of the site including the erection of a 4 storey plus basement building on the triangle site (building C) for Class A 1, A3, B 1 and 02 uses, by the amendment of the elevational design of the Camden Lock Place elevation and the design of the glass drum at the main site entrance.
The Council has considered your application and decided to grant permission subject to the following condition(s ):
Informative(s):
2(b) Details of the nature of the proposed leisure use to be submitted to and approved by the Council before the practical completion of the development and before the use is commenced;
2(c) Details of a Site Management Plan to control the servicing of the site, the timing of deliveries to the site, litter management, a public safety and evacuation plan, and a general management plan for the operation of the market to be submitted to and approved by the Council before the practical completion of the development and before the approved uses in building Care commenced.
4. The food and drink and leisure uses hereby permitted shall not be carried out outside the hours of 0800 to 2400.
CONDITIONAL PERMISSION 26 4 01.PDF
Application No: PE9800576/R2
Case File: H10/9/Q
26th April 2001
PERMISSION FOR DEVELOPMENT - Subject to Conditions
Address
Stables Market, Stanley Sidings, Chalk Farm Road, NWl
Date of Application
Proposal :
10/12/1999
The refurbishment of the existing buildings on the site and the construction of two new buildings to accommodate a mixture of uses within the Al (retail), A3 (food and drink), Bl (business), Dl (exhibition space), a dual Bl/Dl use, and D2 (leisure) Use Classes, together with ancillary storage and other accommodation and associated environmental improvement works.
The Council has considered your application and decided to grant permission subject to the following conditions:
2 The following details shall be submitted to and approved by the Council before the practical completion of the development and before the relevant uses are commenced, and the approved uses shall operate in full accordance with the approved details:
a. Details of the operation of the creche;
b. Details of the nature of the proposed leisure use;
c. Details of a Site Management Plan to control the servicing of the site, the timing of deliveries to the site, litter management, a public safety and evacuation plan, and a general management plan for the operation of the market.
4 The food and drink, exhibition space and leisure uses hereby permitted shall not be carried out outside the hours of 0800 to 2400.
6 The areas shown on the approved drawings as parking, access, loading and manoeuvring areas shall be provided and shall not be used other than for the purposes shown.
No loading or unloading of goods, including fuel, by vehicles arriving at or departing from the premises shall be carried out otherwise than within the curtilage of the building
Reasons for additional conditions:
2 In order that the Council may give consideration to the details of the proposed development.
4 To safeguard the amenities of the adjoining premises and the area generally in order to ensure compliance with the requirements of policy RE2 of the London Borough of Camden Unitary Development Plan 2000.
6 To ensure the availability of the facilities in accordance with the approved scheme in order to ensure compliance with the requirements of policy TR23 of the London Borough of Camden Unitary Development Plan 2000.
BUILDING C LICENSING
2018 License Application
Camden House, The Triangle Building, The Stables Market, Chalk Farm Road, London NW1 8AH
Application date: 29/06/2018
Last date for representation: 27/07/2018
The original license application was knowingly made for operational times that breached granted planning permissions. The 2001, 2003 and the final 2005 granted planning permissions, included above, for this building. All permissions specified strict conditions that no persons were to be in the building from midnight until 8am the next morning to safeguard the amenities of the adjoining premises and the area generally by preventing the building being used for loud or late entertainment, specifically to prevent it becoming a casino or night club.
This is the council's opportunity to correct and enforce the applicant to comply with the conditions of the granted planning permission for this building. To do so, the activity and times need to be significantly amended as suggested below.
To comply with planning conditions, licensing should not license operating times later than 23:30 (to allow minimal drink up time for the building to be emptied of customers and staff by midnight) then not to be occupied until 08:00 the next day.
Licensing should void the original Gilgamesh license and give the current landowners/occupants the option to reapply for a license that is compliant with planning conditions for that building.
A license review may be necessary to correct this.
A shadow license must not be granted for an unethical license that has deprived neighbouring residential amenity the protection they were prescribed by planning.
The operation of Gilgamesh on the 1st floor Building C has been the cause of severe environmental damage for residents in neighbouring Gilbeys Yard due to very poor management and the inappropriate structure of the building with a "soft top" retractable roof and very lightweight walls that could not contain noise within the building, in addition they allowed waste, mostly loud glass, to be stored and collected without permission on neighbouring land at anti social hours at the rear service door onto Gilbeys Yard Residential Estate, depriving many social housing residents the legal right to the quiet enjoyment of their homes, where many housebound disabled and young families, were sleep deprived. Children falling asleep in school because they had been woken 4/5/6am by anti social intoxicated Gilgamesh and Shaka Zulu customers, staff and glass waste collections into loud diesel hydraulic metal waste trucks. Which is exactly the behaviour that the planning conditions were meant to safeguard against, but were ignored by the landowners and their tenants in their license applications.
Building C (The Triangle Building, The Stables Market, Chalk Farm Road, London NW1 8AH) is not structurally capable of containing noise within itself. It does not have solid brick walls, it has very lightweight hollow walls and a canvas retractable roof. The use of this building for licensed entertainment is completely inappropriate and would be knowingly detrimenting neighbouring amenity of the adjoining premises and the area generally . Whether day or night, this building should not host loud activities of any sort, especially not amplified voice or audio, whether live or prerecorded and is best suited to the basic LABS office sharing environment alone with catering for those office folk. The events aspect that they are requesting with the use of retractable office walls to create an open event space under a retractable soft canvas roof, at any hours of the day, adds insult to injury with activity and times until 02:30am.
These businesses are prone to also use and abuse Temporary Event Notices (TENs) to get even later licensed times than the excessive licensed hours they had.
With Gilgamesh and Shaka Zulu the residents suffered terrible noise levels until 3 or 4am with extremely loud intoxicated preloaded customer arrivals and then worse later departures, without even providing the marshals / security staff prescribed in their license conditions. After their loud customers and staff departed 2 - 4am there would be hours of careless cleanup staff moving a lot of glass from all the alcohol consumed, until 5 to 6am, when even louder metal hydraulic diesel waste trucks would rumble and clatter through Gilbeys Yard or Morrisons car park with reverse alarms to smash into them all that licensed glass, for half an hour at time. Then maybe the residents could get a few hours sleep around 6:30am before school or work.
Does this sound like a license that should be shadowed or voided to satisfy our licensing objectives?
Please see details and documents above of granted planning with conditions for this building and our suggested condition compliant "activity and times" below.
Unacceptable - NOn Conditions COMPLIANT
Activity and times (9)
Related activities
Granted opening hours for Opening:
Monday: 08:00 - 02:30
Tuesday: 08:00 - 02:30
Wednesday: 08:00 - 02:30
Thursday: 08:00 - 02:30
Friday: 08:00 - 02:30
Saturday: 08:00 - 02:30
Sunday: 12:00 - 01:30
Granted opening hours for Plays:
Monday: 10:00 - 00:00
Tuesday: 10:00 - 00:00
Wednesday: 10:00 - 00:00
Thursday: 10:00 - 00:00
Friday: 10:00 - 00:00
Saturday: 10:00 - 00:00
Sunday: 10:00 - 23:00
Granted opening hours for Films:
Monday: 10:00 - 00:00
Tuesday: 10:00 - 00:00
Wednesday: 10:00 - 00:00
Thursday: 10:00 - 00:00
Friday: 10:00 - 00:00
Saturday: 10:00 - 00:00
Sunday: 10:00 - 23:00
Granted opening hours for Live Music:
Monday: 10:00 - 22:00
Tuesday: 10:00 - 22:00
Wednesday: 10:00 - 22:00
Thursday: 10:00 - 22:00
Friday: 10:00 - 22:00
Saturday: 10:00 - 22:00
Sunday: 10:00 - 22:00
Granted opening hours for Recorded Music:
Monday: 10:00 - 02:30
Tuesday: 10:00 - 02:30
Wednesday: 10:00 - 02:30
Thursday: 10:00 - 02:30
Friday: 10:00 - 02:30
Saturday: 10:00 - 02:30
Sunday: 12:00 - 01:00
Granted opening hours for Performance or Dance:
Monday: 10:00 - 02:00
Tuesday: 10:00 - 02:00
Wednesday: 10:00 - 02:00
Thursday: 10:00 - 02:00
Friday: 10:00 - 02:00
Saturday: 10:00 - 02:00
Sunday: 10:00 - 01:00
Granted opening hours for Similar to Performance or D:
Monday: 10:00 - 02:00
Tuesday: 10:00 - 02:00
Wednesday: 10:00 - 02:00
Thursday: 10:00 - 02:00
Friday: 10:00 - 02:00
Saturday: 10:00 - 02:00
Sunday: 12:00 - 01:00
Granted opening hours for Late Night Refreshment:
Monday: 23:00 - 02:30
Tuesday: 23:00 - 02:30
Wednesday: 23:00 - 02:30
Thursday: 23:00 - 02:30
Friday: 23:00 - 02:30
Saturday: 23:00 - 02:30
Sunday: 23:00 - 02:30
Alcohol hours applied for:
Monday: 12:00 - 02:00
Tuesday: 12:00 - 02:00
Wednesday: 12:00 - 02:00
Thursday: 12:00 - 02:00
Friday: 12:00 - 02:00
Saturday: 12:00 - 02:00
Sunday: 12:00 - 01:00
ACCEPTABLE - Conditions Compliant
Activity and times (9)
Related activities
Granted opening hours for Opening:
Monday: 08:00 - 23:30
Tuesday: 08:00 - 23:30
Wednesday: 08:00 - 23:30
Thursday: 08:00 - 23:30
Friday: 08:00 - 23:30
Saturday: 08:00 - 23:30
Sunday: 12:00 - 22:30
Granted opening hours for Plays:
Inappropriate loud activity that cannot be contained under the soft roof let alone the flimsy walls
Granted opening hours for Films:
Inappropriate loud activity that cannot be contained under the soft roof let alone the flimsy walls
Granted opening hours for Live Music:
Inappropriate loud activity that cannot be contained under the soft roof let alone the flimsy walls
Granted opening hours for Recorded Music:
Inappropriate loud activity that cannot be contained under the soft roof let alone the flimsy walls, unless strictly ambient levels at which a normal conversation can be had without needing to raise your voice, as you would want in an office or catering environment during compliant granted opening hours.
Granted opening hours for Performance or Dance:
Inappropriate loud activity that cannot be contained under the soft roof let alone the flimsy walls
Granted opening hours for Similar to Performance or D:
Inappropriate loud activity that cannot be contained under the soft roof let alone the flimsy walls
Granted opening hours for Late Night Refreshment:
Inappropriate application for a building that should be vacant from midnight until 8am the next morning
Alcohol hours applied for:
Monday: 12:00 - 23:30
Tuesday: 12:00 - 23:30
Wednesday: 12:00 - 23:30
Thursday: 12:00 - 23:30
Friday: 12:00 - 23:30
Saturday: 12:00 - 23:30
Sunday: 12:00 - 22:30
BUILDING C LICENSes 2006 - 2018
After 2005 Planning permission was granted with conditions which they breaches immediately and put in two big night clubs, dressed up as restaurants, and applied for 2am licenses for each of them.
aka: Gilgamesh, The Stables Market, London NW1 8AH
aka: Shaka Zulu, The Stables Market, London NW1 8AH
aka: 42 The Stables Market, London NW1 8AH
aka: The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road, London NW1 8AH
aka: The Triangle Building, Stables Market, London NW1 8AH
aka: Camden House, Stables Market, London NW1 8AH
aka: Camden House, The Triangle Building, The Stables Market, Chalk Farm Road, London NW1 8AH
License applications were made by Camden Market and their tenants with the wrong address for the building and for licensed hours in breach of the building’s conditions, specifically the condition not have persons in the building between midnight and 8am the next day, reason: to protect neighbouring residential amenity from the building being used for the likes of a casino or night club
Gilgamesh
Application reference:
APP\PREMISES-NEW\000307
Premises name:
Gilgamesh
Premises address:
The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road
London
NW1 8AH
Ward:
Camden Town with Primrose Hill
Status:
Application Approved
Correspondence Address :
B A Law
Designated Premise Supervisor :
Mr Jeffrey Lim
Applicant:
C/O Booth Anderson Chester LLP
Application type:
Premises - New Licence
Application date:
20/03/2006
Last date for representation:
17/04/2006
Committee hearing date:
No information available
Date of temporary event:
Objections received:
No
Granted/Refused date:
21/04/2006
Expiry date:
No information available
Gilgamesh
The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road London NW1 8AH
Premises Licence
Ward: Camden Town with Primrose Hill
Megaro Hotels Limited
Status: In Force
Granted date: 23/07/2007
Gilgamesh
The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road London NW1 8AH
Premises Licence
Ward: Camden Town with Primrose Hill
The Camden Market Management Company Limited
Status: In Force
Granted date: 21/04/2006
Gilgamesh
The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road London NW1 8AH
Premises - Minor Variation of Licence
Ward: Camden Town with Primrose Hill
The Camden Market Management Company Limited
Status: Application Approved
Last date for consultation: 16/05/2017
Gilgamesh
The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road London NW1 8AH
Temporary Event Notice
Ward: Camden Town with Primrose Hill
Ryan Gatward
Status: Application Approved
Last date for consultation: 13/05/2016
Gilgamesh
The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road London NW1 8AH
Premises - Major Variation of Licence
Ward: Camden Town with Primrose Hill
Gilgamesh Camden Limited
Status: Application Partially Approved
Last date for consultation: 19/01/2011
Gilgamesh
The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road London NW1 8AH
Premises Licence - Review of Licence
Ward: Camden Town with Primrose Hill
Metropolitan Police
Status: Review Ended - Conditions Modified on Licence
Last date for consultation: 18/01/2012
Gilgamesh
The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road London NW1 8AH
Premises - Minor Variation of Licence
Ward: Camden Town with Primrose Hill
Jeffery Lim
Status: Application Approved
Last date for consultation: 05/03/2012
Gilgamesh
The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road London NW1 8AH
Premises - New Licence
Ward: Camden Town with Primrose Hill
C/O Booth Anderson Chester LLP
Status: Application Approved
Last date for consultation: 17/04/2006
Shaka Zulu
Application reference:
APP\PREMISES-NEW\000734
Premises name:
Shaka Zulu
Premises address:
42 The Stables Market Chalk Farm Road
London
NW1 8AH
Ward:
Camden Town with Primrose Hill
Status:
Application Partially Approved
Correspondence Address :
B A Law
Designated Premise Supervisor :
Mr Roger Payne
Applicant:
c/o BA Law
Application type:
Premises - New Licence
Application date:
17/10/2008
Last date for representation:
14/11/2008
Committee hearing date:
12/01/2009
Date of temporary event:
Objections received:
Yes
Granted/Refused date:
10/02/2009
Expiry date:
No information available
WASTE STORAGE
TOTAL DISREGARD FOR THE MAJOR WASTE ISSUE CAUSED BY CAMDEN MARKET
The plan drawing document "Floor plan.pdf" provided with this license application APP\PREMISES-NEW\090507 puts "WASTE STORAGE" on neighbouring land when they have been told that they cannot use the land in this way especially after documented historic disturbance caused by its mismanagement
The position they have indicated is not on their land nor do they have permission for using the land especially as waste storage and collection which caused severe environmental issues for neighbouring amenity historically when they did it without permission, they have specifically been told they cannot use this land for waste storage or collection by landowners.
Camden Council Planning enforced the takedown of their makeshift waste storage shed here numerous times in recent years as reported HERE
This arial photo has land ownership boundaries added showing that Camden Market dumped their rubbish on someone else's land in a residential area, without any thought or consideration, let alone any communication or negotiation or PERMISSION.